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Šiandien naršydamas internete atsitiktinai aptikau straipsnį, kuriame rašomos išeivio(o gal labiau tremtinio) iš Rusijos mintys apie politinį korektiškumą. Keista, žmogus atrodo garsus ir žinomas pasaulyje, o aš jo pavardę išgirdau pirmą kartą.

Kažkada bekalbant su drauge pokalbis pakrypo apie vadinamąjį ‘gėjų paradą’ Vilniuje. Savo nuostabai iš tokio protingo žmogaus kaip ji, išgirdau sakinį, panašų į ‘kaip fainai, kad pagaliau ir Lietuvoje kažkas tokio vyksta’. Tą akimirką nesupratau, kas atsitiko, bet užteko 5 minučių ir vos poros pavyzdžių, kad išgirsčiau, jog vistik nieko gero. Žinoma, nieko gero, jau rašiau savo bloge apie tai. Ir ačiū Dievui, Ji buvo pakankamai protinga kad suprastu. Bet kiek pasaulyje yra nepakankamai protingų! Ir išvis debilų! Ką jiem pasakyti, bet batkokia galimybė būti išgirstu yra artima 0? Nieko. Į tokius ir taiko iš vienos pusės Rudomanskis, iš kitos Gražulis su Uoka.

Tas pats ir su garsiaisias(entjau garsiai rėkiančiais) kedofilais. Ten toli gražu ne intelekto giretinėlė susirinkusi. Greičiau ‘minties galiūnų’ elitas, kuris irgi nemato prošvaisčių išgirsti kitą tiesą negu jų ginama. Arba bent jau susimąstyti ir savęs pakalusti ‘gal viskas ne taip?’. Ne, tokios diskusijos su savimi, pripažinkime, ten nėra. Labai patogu.

Kaip Bukovskis sakė, tai ra įrankis, paslėptas po utopinėmis įdėjomis, kuriuo siekiama valdžios, įtakos. Venckienei dar patogau, ar ne? Ir čia net nereikia gilintis, įsijungi tv ir matai: atvažiavo antstolis vykdyti Teismo nutarties, plūgai pastovėjo, palojo, nepraleido, teismo nutarties nebeliko. Kvaila, labai kvaila, bet tokią įtaką mes stebime. Daug blogiau tuo nesistebėti.

Lyčių lygybės institutas

Dar viena nesąmonė. Per žinias išgirdau, kad neturime kuo pasigirti Europai, nes pas mus moterys uždirba gerokai mažiau negu vyrai. Bet man, net nesigilinant į tokius pezėjimus kyla normalus klausimas: Kas yra lygybė? Nes man panašu, kad lygybė turėtų būti apribota suteikiamomis lygiomis galimybėmis(įsidarbinti ir t.t.), o ne lygiais rezultatais. Pavyzdžiu imkime kokius 2007 metus. Statybininkai buvo ta profesija, kuri uždirbo itin daug. Taip, statybose dirba vyrai, bet ar jie dirba dėl to, nes moterys yra diskriminuojamos?

Ne, tiek vyrams, tiek moterims suteikiama vienoda galimybė dirbti. Žinoma, kad moteris nieku gyvu neuždirbs tiek, kiek vyras, nes paprasčiausiai nepakelia tiek plytų, kiek vyras. Čia ir yra tas skirtingas rezultatas, o kartu ir skirtingas atlygis už rezultatą.
Tai ar atlygio skirtumas gali būti tiesiogiai lyginamas su lyčių diskriminacija? aišku, kad negali. Tik kodėl man, suknistam abiturientui tai kažkaip aišku, o valstybei reikia institutų, kad spręstų problemas, kurių nėra?

Prie ko visa tai veda?

Prie kvotų, kiek statybose turi dirbti moterų, kiek į seimą išrinktų homoseksualų ar kiek apskritai homoseksualų turi gyventi Lietuvoje. Aišku, dabar tai atrodo juokinga, bet nuvažiavus į viso ko lyderes Valstijas, norisi surimtėti pamačius, ką ten JAU gali juodaodžiai(ar derėtų vadinti afroamerikiečiais?).Paprastieji mirtingieji to negali.

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  1. 1

    fever rašė,

    2010-06-24 @ 22:25

    Lyčių lygybė man atrodo didžiausia nesąmonė pasaulyje. Ir tos moterys, kurios sako, kad gauna mažiau algos, visuomenės dėmesio ar kokio kito velnio nei vyrai yra visiškos vištos ir kalta čia tikrai ne jų lytis, o proto trūkumas. Kas būtų jei vis dėl to įsivyrautų ta taip visų feminisčių trokštama “lyčių lygybė”? Atsirastų daug bobiškų vyrų ir vyriškų moterų ir pasaulis taptų žymiai gražesnis? Aplamai, skirtingos lytis ir traukia viena kitą savo skirtumais ir jos niekada netaps vienodomis. Ir tai, jog lyčių lygybės nėra ir nebus nereiškia, kad ten kur netinka ženklas lygu turi būti daugiau ar mažiau.

  2. 2

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 00:29

    o Tu nepastebėjai kad tai JAU vyksta? Soliariuminiai berniukai ir apskritai tokios bliaunančios mergytės kaip Patisonas(taip, žinau, kad su klaida parašiau). O visos tos dabar madingos femme fatale juk irgi apverktinai nevykęs vyriškumo kopijavimas.

    Taip, tai yra labai labai blogai.

  3. 3

    nuoddinga rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 10:51

    “Soliariuminiai berniukai ir apskritai tokios bliaunančios mergytės kaip Patisonas(taip, žinau, kad su klaida parašiau). O visos tos dabar madingos femme fatale juk irgi apverktinai nevykęs vyriškumo kopijavimas.” o tai cia kas tavo nuomone? ne cia tikrai nei laso diskriminacijos! as dar nesupratau moteris tu ar vyras.Cia kas kova uz moteru teise dirbti statybose?ok,tebunie jei tu moteris eik,pabandyk,sekmes siekiant tikslo.Bet del vieno tu klysti. Kiekvienas gyvena taip kaip nori ir prasimusa siame supistame gyvenime pats. Jei moters svajone-stadybos,ji ten ir prasimus.Vyrai kurie norejo jau prasimuse i moteru kaili,soliariuminiai? ok,kas tau juose trukdo,neziurek, nusisuk,tai ju gyvenimo budas. Kiekviekas kuria savo gyvenima,o tokie kaip tu ir yra vadinami diskriminantais.Kad vyras verkia cia tau yra “bliaunanti mergyte”?O kas sake kad tik moterims galima bliaut? Taip as pazystu vaikinu kurie man ant peties issiverke ir kas nutiko, pasaulis juk nesugriuvo!Siais laikais visi stereotipai yra griaunami,o tu gyveni praeitimi,kai gyvenimas turejo taisykles!Cia jau ne pasaulis kaltas o tavo kvaili nusistatymai pries ji.Nes ne pasaulis turi prie MUSU taikytis,o mes prie jo.
    (pakomentavau komentara ir kai kuriuos tavo pastebejimus apie statyba)

  4. 4

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 12:57

    Aš jis :)

    O diskriminantas yra matematikos terminas, aš tikriausiai diskriminuotojas.

    Statybos buvo tik suknistas pavyzdys, netgi parašyta: ‘pavyzdžiui’. Bėda čia yra tai, kad Tu skaitai tai ką aš parašiau, bet perskaitai ką pati nori perskaityti. Dar didesnė bėda yra mano įsitikinimus laikyti kvailais :)
    jau nekalbant apie ‘mes turim taikytis prie pasaulio’. Kas čia per nesąmonė? Aš, žinoma atebiu tokį reiškinį. Kaip tik vakar milijonai bliovė dėl em jot metinių. Dar didesnis skaičius žmonių pasaulyje rūko. Tai yra pasaulis? Man dabar taikytis prie pasaulio, eiti klausyti popsą ir rūkyti? O gal paliūdėti dėl žmogaus, visiškai nesusijusio su manimi mirties? Na, ačiū ne. Man labiau Afrikos vaikučių gaila;] Su tokia nuomone tu turbūt ir komunizmą būtum stačiusi, ar ne? Tokie prisitaikėliai apskritai yra gyvenimo menkystos, nepastebėjai? Ot smagu.
    Tęsiant apie Tavo komentarą. sakydamas ‘bliaunančios mergytės kaip Patisonas’ turėjau galvoj inkščiančius gležnučius vaikinus, kurių nė neapsiverčia liežuvis taip vadinti. Kažkokie madingi jie šiais laikais. Nė nemaniau kad vyrai negali verkti, patikėk manimi. Pats puikiai žinau.

    Ir paskutinis klausimas: prieš pezėdama čia bent jau perskaitei straipsnį, kurio nuoroda yra aukščiau?

    Galų gale, jei tau susišvietė, kad čia kova už moterų teises dirbti statybose, tai Tu žiūrėdama į tekstą matai bybį, ne daugiau :) Ai, nu arba tau trylika, ir tavo pareiga visiem prieštarauti ir apsimesti viską žinančia.

  5. 5

    nuoddinga rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 14:45

    waje atsiprasau dinkriminuotojau :D
    matematika man visada sekesi nekaip;DD

    Bl nejaugi tu toks debilas? as ar ne aiskiai pasakiau kad kiekviemas kuria savo gyvenima,bet tai kad tu kisiesi tarkim i geju santykius,toks jau yra pasaulis,nuo tavo isikisimo jie netaps kitokie,taigi tu privalai taikytiis prie ju.
    Apie statybas-nejaugi tau nedaeina kad kartais del to del ko kovoji yra visiskai du nesusije tarpusavy dalykai?
    O dieve ‘inksciantys glezni vaikinai’ butent pats pasakei jie yra madingi siais laikais.Ir prie to tu irgi privalai prisitaikyt.
    Gali but,bybys siais laikais irgi gana madinga tema ;D
    Deja tavo straipsnyje matau maza(kitaip tariant siauru sio pasaulio matyma),susiraukslejusi nuo pasenusiu paziuru,ir negalinti atsistot(nes auksciau savo bambos nematai) bybi ;]
    Taip nudziuginsiu man siais metais sukaks tik 9-eri.Sitas kvailas komentaras apie metus jau yra pasenes,sugalvok kazka naujo.Nemanau kad trylikamete gincitusi su vaikinu,jai tuo laikotarpiu labiau rupetu tau patikt ;D
    beje as ir nekomentavau viso straipsnio,nes toki suda mali,kad net skaityt bloga darosi.

  6. 6

    nuoddinga rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 14:47

    P.S. atsiprasau uz klaidas :D

  7. 7

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-06-26 @ 17:18

    :DD

  8. 8

    sandra rašė,

    2010-06-30 @ 22:37

    buvo smagu skaityti , ipac komentarus :D tava tik tiek :D

  9. 9

    ALGdas rašė,

    2010-07-11 @ 12:03

    Ką parašei, viskas teisinga. O kad keliama Lietuvoje homoseksualų problema, tai man pigiai juokinga. kiekvienas lygiateisiai gyvename savo gyvenimą, ir kam kištis, kur visai nereikia. O demonstruoti išvis nereikia.

  10. 10

    Hmz rašė,

    2010-08-15 @ 12:10

    “O kad keliama Lietuvoje homoseksualų problema, tai man pigiai juokinga. kiekvienas lygiateisiai gyvename savo gyvenimą, ir kam kištis, kur visai nereikia.”

    Pagal Lietuvos įstatymus homoseksualūs žmonės nėra lygiateisiai. Didžioji nelygybės dalis atsiranda dėl to, kad jiems neleidžiama įforminti santuokos arba partnerystės, tad:
    - jų paveldimas iš sugyventinio turtas apmokestinamas. Pvz, pensininkas, paveldėjęs butą, kuriame jie gyveno, bus priverstas jį parduoti, kad susimokėtų mokesčius
    - gėjus, gaudamas iš sugyventinio dovanų daugiau kaip 8000 Lt kainuojantį turtą, moka mokesčius. Dovanos, gautos iš sutuoktinio (-ės) neapmokestinamos.
    - sutuoktinis, tapęs našliu, gali gauti našlio pensiją. Gėjai tokios galimybės neturi.
    - sutuoktinis, žuvus jo sutuoktiniui, gali paduoti civilinį ieškinį dėl žalos atlyginimo. Gėjus, žuvus jo sugyventiniui, tokios galimybės neturi.
    - sutuoktiniui duodama atostogų arba sutrumpinamas darbo laikas, jei jis slaugo savo sutuoktinį. Gėjai neturi tokios galimybės.
    - sutuoktinių įsigyjamas turtas valstybės yra pripažįstamas bendru turtu; gėjų poros įsigyjamas turtas valstybės laikomas įsigijusiojo turtu - tai sukelia problemų skyrybų metu.
    - sutuoktiniai gali dirbti pagal vieno iš jų individualaus darbo liudijimą. Gėjai turi išsiimti atskirus liudijimus, reiškia, mokėti dvigubai daugiau mokesčių.

    “O demonstruoti išvis nereikia.”

    Kiekvienas pilietis turi moralinę pareigą kovoti su neteisybe ir nelygybe. Demonstracijos neretai yra vienintelis būdas tokiai kovai.

  11. 11

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-08-15 @ 13:15

    hmz,

    Tradicinė šeima kuria valstybę, dėl to į ją investuoti(kad ir Tavo paminėtomis ‘privilegijomis’) apsimoka, o ir nėra kito pasirinkimo. Netradicinė šeima valstybės nekuria, besikrušdami jie vaikučių neprisidarys, kurie ateityje mokės mokesčius. Todėl į juos investuoti nėra pagrindo.

    Neteisybė būtų, jei vienais valstybė rūpintųsi dėl kažko, o kitais dėl nieko ;]

  12. 12

    Hmz rašė,

    2010-08-15 @ 20:42

    Dienamiegok,

    visų pirma, valstybę kuria ne kažin kokia abstrakti “šeima”, o piliečių visuma.

    Antra - nuo to, ar bus įteisintos homoseksualių žmonių partnerystės, ar ne, demografijai nėra didelio skirtumo; nesant partnerysčių homoseksualiems žmonėms bus apsunkintas kasdienis gyvenimas ir tiek. Jei sudarysi homoseksualiems žmonėms geresnes sąlygas gyventi su priešingos lyties asmenimis, tai realybėje tu su savo “investicija į šeimą” tik skatinsi šeimų parodijų atsiradimą. Spaudoje kartas nuo karto galima paskaityti apie tokių šeimų tragedijas - galbūt jos paskatins tave galvoti apie realias šeimas, o ne apie abstrakčią “Šeimą”.

    Trečia - kodėl aukščiau minėtas privilegijas turi ir bevaikės šeimos, pavyzdžiui, Adamkų šeima? Jei jau tau iš tiesų taip rūpi populiacijos prieaugis, įstatymai turi teikti privilegijas tik vaikų turinčioms šeimoms.

    Ketvirta, tu taip ir nepaneigei, kad egzistuoja homoseksualių žmonių teisinė nelygybė - tu tiesiog bandai ją pateisinti, kaip neva reikalingą aukštesniems tikslams - “Valstybei”, “nacijai” ar pan. Man, pavyzdžiui, pritrūktų įžūlumo tuo pat metu aiškinti, kad batono krautuvėje nevogiau ir kad jį suvalgiau būdamas alkanas.

  13. 13

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-08-16 @ 10:48

    Kad jau pradedam svaisčiotis asmeniškumais, mūsų pokalbis baigiasi ;]

    geros dienos

  14. 14

    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-08-16 @ 11:01

    Beje, šeimą, kaip vyro ir moters sąjungą, reglamentuoja konstitucija. Nedrįstu abejoti jos teisingumu.

  15. 15

    Hmz rašė,

    2010-08-17 @ 09:47

    Viskas aišku - kai pasibaigė argumentai, puolei ieškoti mano postuose neva esančių asmeniškumų.

    Dėl Konstitucijos: visų pirma, Konstitucija nereglamentuoja šeimos, kaip vyro ir moters sąjungos. Joje yra viso labo dvi eilutės šia tema:
    “Valstybė saugo ir globoja šeimą, motinystę, tėvystę ir vaikystę.
    Santuoka sudaroma laisvu vyro ir moters sutarimu.”
    Atkreipiu tavo dėmesį, kad antrojoje eilutėje kalbama ne apie šeimą, o apie santuoką.

    Antra, Konstitucija nėra kažkoks iš dangaus nuleistas raštas, kuriuo negalima abejoti. Ją sukūrė žmonės, atsižvelgdami į to meto realijas, veikiami to meto požiūrių ir pan. Įstatymai turi tarnauti žmonių interesams, o ne žmonės - įstatymams. Pavyzdžiui, Tarybų Sąjungoje buvo leidžiama veikti vienintelei partijai - komunistų. Tai buvo įtvirtinta TSRS Konstitucijos 6-ajame straipsnyje, kur buvo juodu ant balto parašyta, kad “Vadovaujanti ir valdanti tarybinės visuomenės jėga yra komunistų partija. Ji yra politinės sistemos bei visuomeninių organizacijų branduolys “. Kokiam nors disidentui, raginančiam sukurti daugpartinę sistemą, tavo stiliuje buvo galima atšauti: “Vienpartinę sistemą reglamentuoja konstitucija. Nedrįstu abejoti jos teisingumu.”

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    dienamiegok rašė,

    2010-08-17 @ 10:45

    Jeigu viskas aišku - galėjot visą mūsų pokalbį išsiburti. Geros dienos ;]

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